Discussion:
Hardest to find set items?
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V.
2004-06-04 15:44:18 UTC
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I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make another
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an inexplicable
need to collect set items, I thought it would be helpful to know which are
the most difficult set items to find. Preferably, a list of which item in
each set is the most difficult (for some reason I keep thinking it's like
that McDonald's Monopoly game...they make tons of Boardwalks, but only a few
Park Places, so if you find a Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner or
later you'll get a Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in
there! For example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings,
'cause I know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.

Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?

Thanks,
Amy
EvilBill
2004-06-04 16:04:31 UTC
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Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make another
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an
inexplicable need to collect set items, I thought it would be helpful
to know which are the most difficult set items to find. Preferably,
a list of which item in each set is the most difficult (for some
reason I keep thinking it's like that McDonald's Monopoly game...they
make tons of Boardwalks, but only a few Park Places, so if you find a
Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner or later you'll get a
Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in there! For
example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings, 'cause I
know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Well, some of the rarest include anything from the Griswold's set
(except the armour, that's fairly common); Tal Rasha's armour and
amulet; Trang-Oul's belt; and M'avina's diadem and bow.
--
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well for me with them and it is well for them. I am a nhh-star, the
companion of a nhh-star, I become a nhh-star, and I will not suffer for
ever."
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RegNitto
2004-06-04 16:05:20 UTC
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Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make another
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an
inexplicable need to collect set items, I thought it would be helpful
to know which are the most difficult set items to find. Preferably,
a list of which item in each set is the most difficult (for some
reason I keep thinking it's like that McDonald's Monopoly game...they
make tons of Boardwalks, but only a few Park Places, so if you find a
Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner or later you'll get a
Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in there! For
example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings, 'cause I
know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Thanks,
Amy
Well let's see here:

Tal Rasha's armor
Tal Rasha's amulet
Trangs helm
Trangs belt
M'avinas bow
M'avinas armor
Natalyas suwayyah
Natalyas armor
Griswolds helm
Griswolds shield
Griswolds septer
Immortal Kings armor

I'm sure there's more... these sets are for the expansion. The Disciple set
is a really good set, the amulet is kinda hard to find.
--
RegNitto - USWest SC Ladder
EvilBill
2004-06-04 16:24:20 UTC
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Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis RegNitto
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make another
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an
inexplicable need to collect set items, I thought it would be helpful
to know which are the most difficult set items to find. Preferably,
a list of which item in each set is the most difficult (for some
reason I keep thinking it's like that McDonald's Monopoly game...they
make tons of Boardwalks, but only a few Park Places, so if you find a
Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner or later you'll get a
Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in there! For
example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings, 'cause I
know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Thanks,
Amy
Tal Rasha's armor
Tal Rasha's amulet
Trangs helm
Trangs belt
M'avinas bow
M'avinas armor
Natalyas suwayyah
Natalyas armor
Griswolds helm
Griswolds shield
Griswolds septer
Immortal Kings armor
I'm sure there's more... these sets are for the expansion. The
Disciple set is a really good set, the amulet is kinda hard to find.
The rare set ammys would probably be easier to find if there weren't so
many piddling little low-end set ammys like Cathan's. <g>
--
--
"I see what the nhh-stars do, because so fair is their shape; it is
well for me with them and it is well for them. I am a nhh-star, the
companion of a nhh-star, I become a nhh-star, and I will not suffer for
ever."
EvilBill - http://www.evilbill.co.uk
My Quake2 FTP site: ftp://65.30.181.223/quake2/EvilBill/
romendacil
2004-06-04 17:52:34 UTC
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Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis RegNitto
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make another
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an
inexplicable need to collect set items, I thought it would be helpful
to know which are the most difficult set items to find. Preferably,
a list of which item in each set is the most difficult (for some
reason I keep thinking it's like that McDonald's Monopoly game...they
make tons of Boardwalks, but only a few Park Places, so if you find a
Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner or later you'll get a
Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in there! For
example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings, 'cause I
know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Thanks,
Amy
Tal Rasha's armor
Tal Rasha's amulet
Trangs helm
Trangs belt
M'avinas bow
M'avinas armor
Natalyas suwayyah
Natalyas armor
Griswolds helm
Griswolds shield
Griswolds septer
Immortal Kings armor
I'm sure there's more... these sets are for the expansion. The
Disciple set is a really good set, the amulet is kinda hard to find.
The rare set ammys would probably be easier to find if there weren't so
many piddling little low-end set ammys like Cathan's. <g>
--
So.... Nobody going to mention Aldurs Plate?

The fact that it is mostly useless doesnt make it easier to find :)


Regards Romendacil
chainbreaker
2004-06-04 18:27:02 UTC
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Post by romendacil
So.... Nobody going to mention Aldurs Plate?
The fact that it is mostly useless doesnt make it easier to find :)
Regards Romendacil
I guess it is, but since I've found at least a half dozen in my HC playing
days, I didn't include it--perhaps I just have an affinity for rare useless
items . . . which might also explain why I've also found a couple of
Taebek's Glorys and three Ondal's Almightys. :-)
--
chainbreaker

If you need to email, then chainbreaker (naturally) at comcast dot
net--that's "net" not "com"--should do it.
short
2004-06-04 19:01:58 UTC
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Post by chainbreaker
Post by romendacil
So.... Nobody going to mention Aldurs Plate?
The fact that it is mostly useless doesnt make it easier to find :)
Regards Romendacil
I guess it is, but since I've found at least a half dozen in my HC playing
days, I didn't include it--perhaps I just have an affinity for rare useless
items . . . which might also explain why I've also found a couple of
Taebek's Glorys and three Ondal's Almightys. :-)
Ondal's, is that the weapon????

I've never even seen a Taebeks, much less ever found one myself.


short
chainbreaker
2004-06-04 19:11:23 UTC
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Post by chainbreaker
I guess it is, but since I've found at least a half dozen in my HC
playing days, I didn't include it--perhaps I just have an affinity
for rare useless items . . . which might also explain why I've also
found a couple of Taebek's Glorys and three Ondal's Almightys. :-)
Ondal's, is that the weapon????
I've never even seen a Taebeks, much less ever found one myself.
short
Ondal's is the Spired Helm--and you haven't missed much if you've never seen
either one, other than maybe a misplaced urge to build a character around
the set.
--
chainbreaker

If you need to email, then chainbreaker (naturally) at comcast dot
net--that's "net" not "com"--should do it.
Desktop
2004-06-04 18:58:32 UTC
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Post by romendacil
So.... Nobody going to mention Aldurs Plate?
The fact that it is mostly useless doesnt make it easier to find :)
Like snot in a cupcake.
Post by romendacil
Regards Romendacil
desktop at home dot se
short
2004-06-04 19:06:06 UTC
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Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis RegNitto
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make another
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an
inexplicable need to collect set items, I thought it would be helpful
to know which are the most difficult set items to find. Preferably,
a list of which item in each set is the most difficult (for some
reason I keep thinking it's like that McDonald's Monopoly game...they
make tons of Boardwalks, but only a few Park Places, so if you find a
Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner or later you'll get a
Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in there! For
example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings, 'cause I
know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Thanks,
Amy
Tal Rasha's armor
Tal Rasha's amulet
Trangs helm
Trangs belt
M'avinas bow
M'avinas armor
Natalyas suwayyah
Natalyas armor
Griswolds helm
Griswolds shield
Griswolds septer
Immortal Kings armor
I'm sure there's more... these sets are for the expansion. The
Disciple set is a really good set, the amulet is kinda hard to find.
The rare set ammys would probably be easier to find if there weren't so
many piddling little low-end set ammys like Cathan's. <g>
--
So.... Nobody going to mention Aldurs Plate?
The fact that it is mostly useless doesnt make it easier to find :)
Well, I've found about 300% more Aldur's Plates than I have any of the
Griswold's shield/weapon/hat, or Mav's hat/bow, or IK armor.


short - which means I've found 3 Aldur's plates, but back in 1.09
romendacil
2004-06-04 19:27:50 UTC
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Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis RegNitto
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make another
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an
inexplicable need to collect set items, I thought it would be helpful
to know which are the most difficult set items to find.
Preferably,
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
a list of which item in each set is the most difficult (for some
reason I keep thinking it's like that McDonald's Monopoly game...they
make tons of Boardwalks, but only a few Park Places, so if you find a
Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner or later you'll get a
Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in there! For
example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings, 'cause I
know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find
set
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
items?
Thanks,
Amy
Tal Rasha's armor
Tal Rasha's amulet
Trangs helm
Trangs belt
M'avinas bow
M'avinas armor
Natalyas suwayyah
Natalyas armor
Griswolds helm
Griswolds shield
Griswolds septer
Immortal Kings armor
I'm sure there's more... these sets are for the expansion. The
Disciple set is a really good set, the amulet is kinda hard to find.
The rare set ammys would probably be easier to find if there weren't so
many piddling little low-end set ammys like Cathan's. <g>
--
So.... Nobody going to mention Aldurs Plate?
The fact that it is mostly useless doesnt make it easier to find :)
Well, I've found about 300% more Aldur's Plates than I have any of the
Griswold's shield/weapon/hat, or Mav's hat/bow, or IK armor.
short - which means I've found 3 Aldur's plates, but back in 1.09
And by that, only one of the rest? Griswolds thingies, Mavinas hat/bow or IK
armor?

Well... Both are still way more than I have ever found...

Regards Romendacil
short
2004-06-04 19:40:54 UTC
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Post by V.
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis RegNitto
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make
another
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an
inexplicable need to collect set items, I thought it would be
helpful
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
to know which are the most difficult set items to find.
Preferably,
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
a list of which item in each set is the most difficult (for some
reason I keep thinking it's like that McDonald's Monopoly
game...they
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
make tons of Boardwalks, but only a few Park Places, so if you
find
Post by V.
a
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner or later you'll get a
Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in there!
For
Post by V.
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings,
'cause
Post by V.
I
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find
set
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
items?
Thanks,
Amy
Tal Rasha's armor
Tal Rasha's amulet
Trangs helm
Trangs belt
M'avinas bow
M'avinas armor
Natalyas suwayyah
Natalyas armor
Griswolds helm
Griswolds shield
Griswolds septer
Immortal Kings armor
I'm sure there's more... these sets are for the expansion. The
Disciple set is a really good set, the amulet is kinda hard to find.
The rare set ammys would probably be easier to find if there weren't
so
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
many piddling little low-end set ammys like Cathan's. <g>
--
So.... Nobody going to mention Aldurs Plate?
The fact that it is mostly useless doesnt make it easier to find :)
Well, I've found about 300% more Aldur's Plates than I have any of the
Griswold's shield/weapon/hat, or Mav's hat/bow, or IK armor.
short - which means I've found 3 Aldur's plates, but back in 1.09
And by that, only one of the rest? Griswolds thingies, Mavinas hat/bow or IK
armor?
Well... Both are still way more than I have ever found...
Regards Romendacil
Ok, maybe not
None of the rest :)
I've seen Mav's hat but I didn't get it.

short - never seen the rest drop
romendacil
2004-06-04 19:51:28 UTC
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Post by V.
Post by V.
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis RegNitto
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make
another
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an
inexplicable need to collect set items, I thought it would be
helpful
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
to know which are the most difficult set items to find.
Preferably,
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
a list of which item in each set is the most difficult (for some
reason I keep thinking it's like that McDonald's Monopoly
game...they
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
make tons of Boardwalks, but only a few Park Places, so if you
find
Post by V.
a
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner or later you'll get a
Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in there!
For
Post by V.
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings,
'cause
Post by V.
I
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find
set
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
Post by RegNitto
Post by V.
items?
Thanks,
Amy
Tal Rasha's armor
Tal Rasha's amulet
Trangs helm
Trangs belt
M'avinas bow
M'avinas armor
Natalyas suwayyah
Natalyas armor
Griswolds helm
Griswolds shield
Griswolds septer
Immortal Kings armor
I'm sure there's more... these sets are for the expansion. The
Disciple set is a really good set, the amulet is kinda hard to
find.
Post by V.
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
The rare set ammys would probably be easier to find if there weren't
so
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by EvilBill
many piddling little low-end set ammys like Cathan's. <g>
--
So.... Nobody going to mention Aldurs Plate?
The fact that it is mostly useless doesnt make it easier to find :)
Well, I've found about 300% more Aldur's Plates than I have any of the
Griswold's shield/weapon/hat, or Mav's hat/bow, or IK armor.
short - which means I've found 3 Aldur's plates, but back in 1.09
And by that, only one of the rest? Griswolds thingies, Mavinas hat/bow
or
Post by V.
IK
Post by V.
armor?
Well... Both are still way more than I have ever found...
Regards Romendacil
Ok, maybe not
None of the rest :)
I've seen Mav's hat but I didn't get it.
short - never seen the rest drop
So in fact you have found excactly infinitely more Aldurs plates than any of
the rest?

Dont feel bad, I have never seen either drop... I dont think I have ever
found an elite unique or set.... Ever (except in mods of course:))... And
even if I dont play as much as others, I have still been on the realms since
day 1.... :) Ahh... well, its still fun to play. Even without all these
spiffy thingies.... And there is also your time honoured SBTSMF-method....
Works remarkably well in agd games :)


Regards Romendacil
short
2004-06-04 20:01:12 UTC
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Post by romendacil
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by short
Well, I've found about 300% more Aldur's Plates than I have any of the
Griswold's shield/weapon/hat, or Mav's hat/bow, or IK armor.
short - which means I've found 3 Aldur's plates, but back in 1.09
And by that, only one of the rest? Griswolds thingies, Mavinas hat/bow
or
Post by short
IK
Post by romendacil
armor?
Well... Both are still way more than I have ever found...
Regards Romendacil
Ok, maybe not
None of the rest :)
I've seen Mav's hat but I didn't get it.
short - never seen the rest drop
So in fact you have found excactly infinitely more Aldurs plates than any of
the rest?
Hehehe, yup.
Post by romendacil
Dont feel bad, I have never seen either drop... I dont think I have ever
found an elite unique or set.... Ever (except in mods of course:))... And
even if I dont play as much as others, I have still been on the realms since
day 1.... :) Ahh... well, its still fun to play. Even without all these
spiffy thingies.... And there is also your time honoured SBTSMF-method....
Works remarkably well in agd games :)
Wow. And I thought my luck was bad. Even without MFing I've found a few,
Hellslayer, Lightsaber, and probably some others. Not enough to be bragging
about though. IIRC Aldurs plate dropped while questing twice, the other on
a MF run, but the memory is a bit fuzzy. Since 1.10 my playtime has been
cut down to ~2-3 hours a week, so not many finds at all.

Lightsaber - MF run
Shako - MF run
Gladiators Bane - Questing
Occy - MFing

That's all I can think of offhand


short
romendacil
2004-06-04 20:34:44 UTC
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Well, I've found about 300% more Aldur's Plates than I have any of
the
Post by romendacil
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Post by short
Griswold's shield/weapon/hat, or Mav's hat/bow, or IK armor.
short - which means I've found 3 Aldur's plates, but back in 1.09
And by that, only one of the rest? Griswolds thingies, Mavinas hat/bow
or
Post by short
IK
Post by romendacil
armor?
Well... Both are still way more than I have ever found...
Regards Romendacil
Ok, maybe not
None of the rest :)
I've seen Mav's hat but I didn't get it.
short - never seen the rest drop
So in fact you have found excactly infinitely more Aldurs plates than
any
Post by short
of
Post by romendacil
the rest?
Hehehe, yup.
Post by romendacil
Dont feel bad, I have never seen either drop... I dont think I have ever
found an elite unique or set.... Ever (except in mods of course:))...
And
Post by short
Post by romendacil
even if I dont play as much as others, I have still been on the realms
since
Post by romendacil
day 1.... :) Ahh... well, its still fun to play. Even without all these
spiffy thingies.... And there is also your time honoured
SBTSMF-method....
Post by short
Post by romendacil
Works remarkably well in agd games :)
Wow. And I thought my luck was bad. Even without MFing I've found a few,
Hellslayer, Lightsaber, and probably some others. Not enough to be bragging
about though. IIRC Aldurs plate dropped while questing twice, the other on
a MF run, but the memory is a bit fuzzy. Since 1.10 my playtime has been
cut down to ~2-3 hours a week, so not many finds at all.
Lightsaber - MF run
Got that as a gift :)
Post by short
Shako - MF run
Never had one...
Post by short
Gladiators Bane - Questing
Never had, tried trading for one a _long_ time ago... No luck...
Post by short
Occy - MFing
i actually found that back in 1.07. Just about a week or two after LOD hit
the shops.... Traded it to a RL friend who also played back then.... For a
Herald of Zakarum and a _very_ nice dual leech resist ring... In fact I
think I still have that ring.... Should be on my europe account. But has
probably expired... I should go check that ...
Post by short
That's all I can think of offhand
short
Still a decent list...


Regards Romendacil
Shiflet
2004-06-05 03:26:19 UTC
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Gladiators Bane - Questing
Never had, tried trading for one a _long_ time ago... No luck...
You had no luck cause nobody keeps them. I found one and offered it free,
nobody wanted it.
romendacil
2004-06-05 10:39:44 UTC
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Post by romendacil
Post by short
Gladiators Bane - Questing
Never had, tried trading for one a _long_ time ago... No luck...
You had no luck cause nobody keeps them. I found one and offered it free,
nobody wanted it.
I found out later that I was lucky not to get it... Instead I kept my
Guardian Angel with a 14% res all jewel in it. Probably served me better
than the Gladiators would have :)


Regards Romendacil
Shiflet
2004-06-05 12:05:51 UTC
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I found out later that I was lucky not to get it... Instead I kept my
Guardian Angel with a 14% res all jewel in it. Probably served me better
than the Gladiators would have :)
Definitely. I've looked and looked at Gladiator's Bane, and I really don't
see a use for it. It has high def, but really, nothing else.
Post by romendacil
Regards Romendacil
romendacil
2004-06-05 14:16:02 UTC
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Post by Shiflet
Post by romendacil
I found out later that I was lucky not to get it... Instead I kept my
Guardian Angel with a 14% res all jewel in it. Probably served me better
than the Gladiators would have :)
Definitely. I've looked and looked at Gladiator's Bane, and I really don't
see a use for it. It has high def, but really, nothing else.
Post by romendacil
Regards Romendacil
I should say, though, that the paladin in question was a defiant, and as
such would have made good use of the higher defense compared to the Guardian
Angel, but still...

Regards Romendacil
short
2004-06-07 13:23:17 UTC
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Post by romendacil
I found out later that I was lucky not to get it... Instead I kept my
Guardian Angel with a 14% res all jewel in it. Probably served me better
than the Gladiators would have :)
Definitely. I've looked and looked at Gladiator's Bane, and I really don't
see a use for it. It has high def, but really, nothing else.
Yup, high defense and a lvl 85 req. Oh, some piddly MDR and cannot be
frozen, but upgrade a Duriel's Shell and you've already got it beat, no
contest.


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chainbreaker
2004-06-04 22:44:35 UTC
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Post by short
Wow. And I thought my luck was bad. Even without MFing I've found a
few, Hellslayer, Lightsaber, and probably some others. Not enough to
be bragging about though. IIRC Aldurs plate dropped while questing
twice, the other on a MF run, but the memory is a bit fuzzy. Since
1.10 my playtime has been cut down to ~2-3 hours a week, so not many
finds at all.
Lightsaber - MF run
Shako - MF run
Gladiators Bane - Questing
Occy - MFing
That's all I can think of offhand
short
The only set items I can think of I've never found are Griswold's shield,
Trang's belt and IK armor.

I was finally able to take Tal's armor off about a month ago . . . for what
it's worth--haven't played since.

More than likely that's where the list will remain.
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short
2004-06-07 13:24:37 UTC
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Post by short
Wow. And I thought my luck was bad. Even without MFing I've found a
few, Hellslayer, Lightsaber, and probably some others. Not enough to
be bragging about though. IIRC Aldurs plate dropped while questing
twice, the other on a MF run, but the memory is a bit fuzzy. Since
1.10 my playtime has been cut down to ~2-3 hours a week, so not many
finds at all.
Lightsaber - MF run
Shako - MF run
Gladiators Bane - Questing
Occy - MFing
That's all I can think of offhand
short
The only set items I can think of I've never found are Griswold's shield,
Trang's belt and IK armor.
I was finally able to take Tal's armor off about a month ago . . . for what
it's worth--haven't played since.
More than likely that's where the list will remain.
I found a few of Trang's Belts in 1.09, I didn't even think they were that
rare. I always had problems getting ahold of the shield and hat.


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chainbreaker
2004-06-04 16:04:04 UTC
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Post by V.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Thanks,
Amy
I can't tell you where to find a list, but I can reel most of them off, as
most oldtimers can--

Bul Kathos--especially Tribal Guardian, the mythical sword
Griswold's--all except the armor
Heaven's Brethren--Taebek's Glory, ward shield and Ondal's Almighty, spired
helm
Immortal King's Soul Cage from the IK set
The Disciple--Credendum, the mithril coil and Telling of Beads, the ammy are
both a bit hard to find, but not extraordinarily so
M'avina's True sight Diadem, and M'avina's Embrace
Naj's Light Plate and Naj's Puzzler are both a bit on the hard side to find
Natalya's Mark and to a lesser degree Natalya's Shadow
Sazabi's Cobalt Redeemer--cryptic sword
Tal Rasha's Guardianship and Adjudication

I think that's most if not all of what are the most difficult set pieces to
find, some just mildly difficult, and some *really* difficult. I found my
first Tal's Armor ever just the other day after playing well--let's say
waaaaayyyy too much for around the last 3 years or so.
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chainbreaker
2004-06-04 16:15:20 UTC
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Post by V.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Thanks,
Amy
I can't tell you where to find a list, but I can reel most of them
off, as most oldtimers can--
Bul Kathos--especially Tribal Guardian, the mythical sword
Griswold's--all except the armor
Heaven's Brethren--Taebek's Glory, ward shield and Ondal's Almighty,
spired helm
Immortal King's Soul Cage from the IK set
The Disciple--Credendum, the mithril coil and Telling of Beads, the
ammy are both a bit hard to find, but not extraordinarily so
M'avina's True sight Diadem, and M'avina's Embrace
Naj's Light Plate and Naj's Puzzler are both a bit on the hard side
to find Natalya's Mark and to a lesser degree Natalya's Shadow
Sazabi's Cobalt Redeemer--cryptic sword
Tal Rasha's Guardianship and Adjudication
I think that's most if not all of what are the most difficult set
pieces to find, some just mildly difficult, and some *really*
difficult. I found my first Tal's Armor ever just the other day
after playing well--let's say waaaaayyyy too much for around the last
3 years or so.
Glad I hedged--as others note, you can add Trang's Belt and possibly Wing to
the list.
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Alucard
2004-06-05 04:55:20 UTC
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Post by V.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Thanks,
Amy
I can't tell you where to find a list, but I can reel most of them off,
as most oldtimers can--
Bul Kathos--especially Tribal Guardian, the mythical sword
Griswold's--all except the armor
Heaven's Brethren--Taebek's Glory, ward shield and Ondal's Almighty,
spired helm
Immortal King's Soul Cage from the IK set
The Disciple--Credendum, the mithril coil and Telling of Beads, the ammy
are both a bit hard to find, but not extraordinarily so
M'avina's True sight Diadem, and M'avina's Embrace
Naj's Light Plate and Naj's Puzzler are both a bit on the hard side to
find Natalya's Mark and to a lesser degree Natalya's Shadow
Sazabi's Cobalt Redeemer--cryptic sword
Tal Rasha's Guardianship and Adjudication
I think that's most if not all of what are the most difficult set pieces
to find, some just mildly difficult, and some *really* difficult. I
found my first Tal's Armor ever just the other day after playing
well--let's say waaaaayyyy too much for around the last 3 years or so.
This feels like a 1.09 list to me, as of playing 1.10 ladder i have found the
entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow (tonnes) ma'avinas diadem
and bow (but not armour) naj's light plate, 2 cryptic swords and 2 of the
entire tal's set. See my direct reply to the original post for what i believe
is the most rare set item.
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2004-06-05 11:15:23 UTC
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Post by Alucard
This feels like a 1.09 list to me, as of playing 1.10 ladder i have
found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow (tonnes)
ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light plate, 2
cryptic swords and 2 of the entire tal's set. See my direct reply to
the original post for what i believe is the most rare set item.
They're all a lot easier to find than they were in 1.09.

And he didn't ask for the hardest to find set *item*.

Anyway, what you find yourself doesn't mean jack squat as to it's relative
rarity. If you want to go that route, then based on my findings 1.09
Grandfathers were common as dirt.

Anyway, Ondal's Almighty was statistically supposed to be the most rare 1.09
set item, if I remember correctly, and most likely still is, although I'm
not up on the revised stats, and I've found 3 of those, 2 in .09. I've also
found 3 M'avina hats and at least 4 Tal's ammys.

What does that prove? Not a damn thing.
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2004-06-05 23:44:55 UTC
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Post by Alucard
This feels like a 1.09 list to me, as of playing 1.10 ladder i have
found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow (tonnes)
ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light plate, 2
cryptic swords and 2 of the entire tal's set. See my direct reply to
the original post for what i believe is the most rare set item.
They're all a lot easier to find than they were in 1.09.
And he didn't ask for the hardest to find set *item*.
Anyway, what you find yourself doesn't mean jack squat as to it's
relative rarity. If you want to go that route, then based on my
findings 1.09 Grandfathers were common as dirt.
I had to install Ancestral Recall and run the Infector/hell repeatedly to
get my Grandfathers. I've never seen one in 1.09 otherwise, even using
Gemstone. That goes for Windforce's too. And I've done hundreds of hours MF
with my lvl 97 Burritozon with 1,100+% MF. (She was up to lvl 98.8 but my
HDD crashed a while back and the last back-up of her I had was lvl 95. A
lesson there. At least my mules were on a different PC).

Has anyone else come to the tentative conclusion that different classes get
different drops? Up until recently I'd only been playing my 'zon for MF, she
was the only character I had who could go anywhere with alacrity. Now I have
a barb and a necro in hell they are getting drops I've never seen in all the
hundreds of hours MF with my maxed-out MF 'zon

I'm playing 1.09 but I agree with most of what's been called 'rare'. I'd
kill for Trang's Guise, got everything else. Although my Necro is wearing a
harly, I'm not sure if Trang's would be much better (except for the mana
regen bonus for the whole set, and the cool vampire look, I'm yet to see
that). I have all of IK except the armour. Don't have Tal's armour. Have
Naj's full set. (Well, it's only three items).
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john graesser
2004-06-06 01:05:34 UTC
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Has anyone else come to the tentative conclusion that different classes get
different drops? Up until recently I'd only been playing my 'zon for MF, she
was the only character I had who could go anywhere with alacrity. Now I have
a barb and a necro in hell they are getting drops I've never seen in all the
hundreds of hours MF with my maxed-out MF 'zon
I think it may be tied to where and how you kill the monster, I have noticed
a differance in drops as well, that is why I use several different mf chars,
that and it breaks up the boredom if I am using a different set of skill
keys every so often.
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2004-06-06 14:19:41 UTC
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Post by ~misfit~
Has anyone else come to the tentative conclusion that different
classes get different drops? Up until recently I'd only been playing
my 'zon for MF, she was the only character I had who could go
anywhere with alacrity. Now I have a barb and a necro in hell they
are getting drops I've never seen in all the hundreds of hours MF
with my maxed-out MF 'zon
I think it may be tied to where and how you kill the monster, I have
noticed a differance in drops as well, that is why I use several
different mf chars, that and it breaks up the boredom if I am using a
different set of skill keys every so often.
I only really have the one char who is a capable MF'er (lol) and that
happens to be a 'zon, 1,100% MF. I have a lvl 80 barb with about 150% MF who
does Ok in hell, I might have to up his MF a bit somehow and try with him
more.

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chainbreaker
2004-06-06 01:34:34 UTC
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Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
This feels like a 1.09 list to me, as of playing 1.10 ladder i have
found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow (tonnes)
ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light plate, 2
cryptic swords and 2 of the entire tal's set. See my direct reply to
the original post for what i believe is the most rare set item.
They're all a lot easier to find than they were in 1.09.
And he didn't ask for the hardest to find set *item*.
Anyway, what you find yourself doesn't mean jack squat as to it's
relative rarity. If you want to go that route, then based on my
findings 1.09 Grandfathers were common as dirt.
I had to install Ancestral Recall and run the Infector/hell
repeatedly to get my Grandfathers. I've never seen one in 1.09
otherwise, even using Gemstone. That goes for Windforce's too. And
I've done hundreds of hours MF with my lvl 97 Burritozon with 1,100+%
MF. (She was up to lvl 98.8 but my HDD crashed a while back and the
last back-up of her I had was lvl 95. A lesson there. At least my
mules were on a different PC).
I found another Grandfather and the Tal's armor in HC within a couple of
days of each other.

But a Windforce is something I've never found and probably never will.
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2004-06-06 14:17:13 UTC
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Post by ~misfit~
Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
This feels like a 1.09 list to me, as of playing 1.10 ladder i have
found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow
(tonnes) ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light
plate, 2 cryptic swords and 2 of the entire tal's set. See my
direct reply to the original post for what i believe is the most
rare set item.
They're all a lot easier to find than they were in 1.09.
And he didn't ask for the hardest to find set *item*.
Anyway, what you find yourself doesn't mean jack squat as to it's
relative rarity. If you want to go that route, then based on my
findings 1.09 Grandfathers were common as dirt.
I had to install Ancestral Recall and run the Infector/hell
repeatedly to get my Grandfathers. I've never seen one in 1.09
otherwise, even using Gemstone. That goes for Windforce's too. And
I've done hundreds of hours MF with my lvl 97 Burritozon with 1,100+%
MF. (She was up to lvl 98.8 but my HDD crashed a while back and the
last back-up of her I had was lvl 95. A lesson there. At least my
mules were on a different PC).
I found another Grandfather and the Tal's armor in HC within a couple
of days of each other.
But a Windforce is something I've never found and probably never will.
I went to a lot of trouble to get a Windforce, installing AR and doing hell
Infector runs, following instructions from some kind soul here. It took me
quite a few hours but I got a couple of Grandfathers and a couple of
Windforce's. And you know what? After all that my 'zon does better with the
burrito. I'd just heard the Windforce was *the* weapon for a bowazon so
thought I'd like one. Now they're both on mercs.
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romendacil
2004-06-06 18:00:01 UTC
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Post by chainbreaker
Post by ~misfit~
Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
This feels like a 1.09 list to me, as of playing 1.10 ladder i have
found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow
(tonnes) ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light
plate, 2 cryptic swords and 2 of the entire tal's set. See my
direct reply to the original post for what i believe is the most
rare set item.
They're all a lot easier to find than they were in 1.09.
And he didn't ask for the hardest to find set *item*.
Anyway, what you find yourself doesn't mean jack squat as to it's
relative rarity. If you want to go that route, then based on my
findings 1.09 Grandfathers were common as dirt.
I had to install Ancestral Recall and run the Infector/hell
repeatedly to get my Grandfathers. I've never seen one in 1.09
otherwise, even using Gemstone. That goes for Windforce's too. And
I've done hundreds of hours MF with my lvl 97 Burritozon with 1,100+%
MF. (She was up to lvl 98.8 but my HDD crashed a while back and the
last back-up of her I had was lvl 95. A lesson there. At least my
mules were on a different PC).
I found another Grandfather and the Tal's armor in HC within a couple
of days of each other.
But a Windforce is something I've never found and probably never will.
I went to a lot of trouble to get a Windforce, installing AR and doing hell
Infector runs, following instructions from some kind soul here. It took me
quite a few hours but I got a couple of Grandfathers and a couple of
Windforce's. And you know what? After all that my 'zon does better with the
burrito. I'd just heard the Windforce was *the* weapon for a bowazon so
thought I'd like one. Now they're both on mercs.
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Well... Regarding Windforce vs. Buriza comparisons, I think it has been
discussed a few times before, and it always ends in personal preference.
There was an article on Diabloii.net a long time ago that made the
comparison between a lot of bows/crossbows with different IAS equipment with
regards to damage output over time. It showed that the Windforce was still
the highest damage bow over time, but that the Buriza was a _very_ close
second.

My personal opinion is that I will never use a Buriza for an amazon. I am a
speedfreak and can simply not stand the slow firing of the huge crossbow. I
prefer the Goldstrike as a weapon should I not have a Windforce available.
Which I dont. Not since I gave it away, anyway :).

Bottom line is that personal preferences will decide which bow is the best
for you...

Regards Romendacil


... But for a merc, there is no competition for the Windforce. (except maybe
one of the new runewords?)
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2004-06-07 00:50:50 UTC
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Post by ~misfit~
I went to a lot of trouble to get a Windforce, installing AR and
doing hell Infector runs, following instructions from some kind soul
here. It took me quite a few hours but I got a couple of
Grandfathers and a couple of Windforce's. And you know what? After
all that my 'zon does better with the burrito. I'd just heard the
Windforce was *the* weapon for a bowazon so thought I'd like one.
Now they're both on mercs. --
Well... Regarding Windforce vs. Buriza comparisons, I think it has
been discussed a few times before, and it always ends in personal
preference. There was an article on Diabloii.net a long time ago that
made the comparison between a lot of bows/crossbows with different
IAS equipment with regards to damage output over time. It showed that
the Windforce was still the highest damage bow over time, but that
the Buriza was a _very_ close second.
My personal opinion is that I will never use a Buriza for an amazon.
I am a speedfreak and can simply not stand the slow firing of the
huge crossbow. I prefer the Goldstrike as a weapon should I not have
a Windforce available. Which I dont. Not since I gave it away, anyway
:).
Yeah, I know what you mean. However, I have mine socketed with a shael and
have IAS on other items, it doesn't seem so bad. With my new 'zon I used a
socketed bow until I found a Demon Machine, then used that 'til I found a
Burrito. I guess I'm just used to 'zon's with crossbows.

You know, I *hate* knockback on a bow. That's the worst feature of Windforce
if you ask me. Killing super-uniques I ended up having to keep moving to
keep them on screen, especially PI's. That can be a hassle for teleporters
or extra-fast's. I mean, I can see the benefit of knock-back on a melee
weapon (but still don't like it) but if you need it on a bow then you're
playing wrong. (IMO)
Post by romendacil
Bottom line is that personal preferences will decide which bow is the
best for you...
... But for a merc, there is no competition for the Windforce.
(except maybe one of the new runewords?)
True. I can't try the new runewords as I'm still in 1.09 land. I used to
think Goldstrike was *the* bow for a merc but Windforce is better.
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Post by ~misfit~
You know, I *hate* knockback on a bow. That's the worst feature of
Windforce if you ask me. Killing super-uniques I ended up having to
keep moving to keep them on screen, especially PI's. That can be a
hassle for teleporters or extra-fast's. I mean, I can see the benefit
of knock-back on a melee weapon (but still don't like it) but if you
need it on a bow then you're playing wrong. (IMO)
You haven't yet played on USWest when the Pindlebotters are out in force
and the lag spikes are five minutes long ;)
Trust me, under those conditions knockback is *very* useful.
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Shiflet
2004-06-07 04:12:53 UTC
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You know, I *hate* knockback on a bow. That's the worst feature of Windforce
if you ask me. Killing super-uniques I ended up having to keep moving to
keep them on screen, especially PI's. That can be a hassle for teleporters
or extra-fast's. I mean, I can see the benefit of knock-back on a melee
weapon (but still don't like it) but if you need it on a bow then you're
playing wrong. (IMO)
Knockback is WORTHLESS on melee weapons, not on bows. You don't NEED to keep
the enemy on screen, just click lock them and you're set-you can kill the
enemy while he's screens away and totally harmless to you, which is the
entire POINT of a ranged attacker. In fact, for a non-blocking character
like a bow user, the farther away the enemy the better you are. Bow users DO
NOT WANT foes in close-melee fighters do.
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Post by ~misfit~
You know, I *hate* knockback on a bow. That's the worst feature of
Windforce if you ask me. Killing super-uniques I ended up having to
keep moving to keep them on screen, especially PI's. That can be a
hassle for teleporters or extra-fast's. I mean, I can see the
benefit of knock-back on a melee weapon (but still don't like it)
but if you need it on a bow then you're playing wrong. (IMO)
Knockback is WORTHLESS on melee weapons, not on bows. You don't NEED
to keep the enemy on screen, just click lock them and you're set-you
can kill the enemy while he's screens away and totally harmless to
you, which is the entire POINT of a ranged attacker. In fact, for a
non-blocking character like a bow user, the farther away the enemy
the better you are. Bow users DO NOT WANT foes in close-melee
fighters do.
Good point.

The only time I've found knock-back useful at all was on a melee weapon when
I was overpowered and totally surrounded. It allowed me to get the hell out
of there!
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tcells
2004-06-08 05:09:00 UTC
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note on the bow comparison - it was a great excersize in academics and about
as worthwhile as teaching a pidgeon to crap accurately (love that saying).

They discarded opportunity cost and features such as pierce. Like Rom said,
it's what you feel best with that counts.
Post by ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
You know, I *hate* knockback on a bow. That's the worst feature of
Windforce
Post by ~misfit~
if you ask me. Killing super-uniques I ended up having to keep moving to
keep them on screen, especially PI's. That can be a hassle for teleporters
or extra-fast's. I mean, I can see the benefit of knock-back on a melee
weapon (but still don't like it) but if you need it on a bow then you're
playing wrong. (IMO)
Knockback is WORTHLESS on melee weapons, not on bows. You don't NEED to keep
the enemy on screen, just click lock them and you're set-you can kill the
enemy while he's screens away and totally harmless to you,
that's fine and good logic for a single monster, not for a group. Then
again against a single monster you've got a merc, a valk and a decoy to keep
them at bay, no need at all to have them being knocked back.

which is the
Post by ~misfit~
entire POINT of a ranged attacker. In fact, for a non-blocking character
like a bow user, the farther away the enemy the better you are. Bow users DO
NOT WANT foes in close-melee fighters do.
it's when you're not killing fast enough that you need knockback, and that's
all, and even then you can use other tactics if you like.
Shiflet
2004-06-08 05:39:01 UTC
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that's fine and good logic for a single monster, not for a group.
He mentioned it was especially useless against boss monsters especially PI
ones. Against a group you have Strafe, Multi, or Freezing.
Post by tcells
it's when you're not killing fast enough that you need knockback, and that's
all, and even then you can use other tactics if you like.
Shiflet
2004-06-06 05:40:28 UTC
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Although my Necro is wearing a harly, I'm not sure if Trang's would be
much better

It would kill your cast rate, and that's about it.
(except for the mana regen bonus for the whole set, and the cool vampire
look,

Even the vampire look is ugly. Why couldn't they make you look like
something impressive, like a balrog or minotaur?
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Although my Necro is wearing a harly, I'm not sure if Trang's would
be much better
It would kill your cast rate, and that's about it.
(except for the mana regen bonus for the whole set, and the cool
vampire look,
Even the vampire look is ugly. Why couldn't they make you look like
something impressive, like a balrog or minotaur?
I still want to see it though. I'll find the Trang's Guise if it kills me.
Or try rolling bone visage's (I'm playing Gemstone). The trouble is, I
haven't found a damn bone visage since I've been looking (and maybe for a
lot longer, I dunno).

My necro (SP) has just killed the council in hell. I did normal at players
8, then NM the same. I started hell at 6, quickly dropped to 4, then 2,
then, after getting killed a few too many times down in those 'disused
fane'-type places I'm at players 1 and I think I'll stay there for the rest
of hell. Tonight was the first time *ever*, I'm talking a few years of
playing, that I couldn't get my body back. I had to quit out and start
again. I hate that, I had a perfect record up until now, even getting the
g/f's body back for her when she couldn't. I was a master. However, when
your body is at the foot of the stairs of the disused fane and there are two
boss-packs right there....... I didn't even get a look-in. Down the steps
+BLAM+, dead. BTW, I always go back for my body naked. my g/f sometimes
spends up on armour etc to get hers back or keeps a spare set but I don't.
I've always managed naked, even if it took a few tries. Tonight was just
impossible though. <sigh> I contemplated armouring-up but figured it would
just be a waste of money. I was wearing some pretty uber-gear when I died
and there was nowhere to run to and nowhere to hide in this case.

A first for me, quitting out after failing to retrieve my body. Oh, the
shame! (Luckilly I'd just hit lvl 82 about 30 seconds before I died so I
didn't lose much experience). I still have 110 stat points and have been
undecided where to put them. Now I'm thinking I need a bit more life,
although I already have over 1,000.

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Sliver
2004-06-06 13:04:36 UTC
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Has anyone else come to the tentative conclusion that different classes get
different drops? Up until recently I'd only been playing my 'zon for MF, she
<snippage>
Oh Hell yes lol Doesn't matter which character I am running they get drops
for every other class but them and it's fairly consistant. Pally gets necro
and zon stuff. Assassin gets Pally gear, my druid has been getting sorc
stuff and my zon has been getting barb gear. I don't play any of the others
so I wouldn't know and I can't say as this is accurate or anyone else's
experience but damn it feels like a conspiracy eh? LMFAO!

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Here I stand.
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LineNoise
2004-06-06 01:44:58 UTC
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alt.games.diablo.
Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
This feels like a 1.09 list to me, as of playing 1.10 ladder i have
found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow (tonnes)
ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light plate, 2
cryptic swords and 2 of the entire tal's set. See my direct reply to
the original post for what i believe is the most rare set item.
They're all a lot easier to find than they were in 1.09.
And he didn't ask for the hardest to find set *item*.
Anyway, what you find yourself doesn't mean jack squat as to it's relative
rarity. If you want to go that route, then based on my findings 1.09
Grandfathers were common as dirt.
Anyway, Ondal's Almighty was statistically supposed to be the most rare 1.09
set item, if I remember correctly, and most likely still is, although I'm
not up on the revised stats, and I've found 3 of those, 2 in .09. I've also
found 3 M'avina hats and at least 4 Tal's ammys.
What does that prove? Not a damn thing.
Statistically, I would think that either Griswold's shield or Natalya's
claw would be the most rare. Highest treasure class, plus the additional
1/3rd penalty for being class-specific base items. Either that or Telling
of Beads from Disciple. Highest qlvl on a set amulet, and only 1/45th
chance even after you have a green amulet high enough.

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Desktop
2004-06-06 10:06:51 UTC
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Post by LineNoise
"Bother!", said Pooh, as he read chainbreaker's latest post to
alt.games.diablo.
Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
This feels like a 1.09 list to me, as of playing 1.10 ladder i have
found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow (tonnes)
ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light plate, 2
cryptic swords and 2 of the entire tal's set. See my direct reply to
the original post for what i believe is the most rare set item.
They're all a lot easier to find than they were in 1.09.
And he didn't ask for the hardest to find set *item*.
Anyway, what you find yourself doesn't mean jack squat as to it's
relative rarity. If you want to go that route, then based on my
findings 1.09 Grandfathers were common as dirt.
Anyway, Ondal's Almighty was statistically supposed to be the most
rare 1.09 set item, if I remember correctly, and most likely still
is, although I'm not up on the revised stats, and I've found 3 of
those, 2 in .09. I've also found 3 M'avina hats and at least 4
Tal's ammys.
What does that prove? Not a damn thing.
Statistically, I would think that either Griswold's shield or
Natalya's claw would be the most rare. Highest treasure class, plus
the additional 1/3rd penalty for being class-specific base items.
Either that or Telling of Beads from Disciple. Highest qlvl on a set
amulet, and only 1/45th chance even after you have a green amulet
high enough.
LineNoise
Telling of Beads is difficult to find? Wow, I didn't know that and I have
found two on the ladder!

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chainbreaker
2004-06-06 12:33:08 UTC
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Post by LineNoise
Post by chainbreaker
Anyway, Ondal's Almighty was statistically supposed to be the most
rare 1.09 set item, if I remember correctly, and most likely still
is, although I'm not up on the revised stats, and I've found 3 of
those, 2 in .09. I've also found 3 M'avina hats and at least 4
Tal's ammys.
What does that prove? Not a damn thing.
Statistically, I would think that either Griswold's shield or
Natalya's
claw would be the most rare. Highest treasure class, plus the
additional 1/3rd penalty for being class-specific base items. Either
that or Telling of Beads from Disciple. Highest qlvl on a set
amulet, and only 1/45th chance even after you have a green amulet
high enough.
LineNoise
I read that explanation about Ondal's on diinet I think, so you can take it
with a big dose of salt. I wouldn't argue much about it or any of the 3
rare Gris set pieces, *or* ToB being the most rare. Fact is that those, and
all the rest on my original list +Trang's belt are rare enough and I don't
think anybody can argue about that. :-)

I actually figure Aldur's armor is probably at least as rare as Nat's armor,
but who wants it anyway? :-)
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tcells
2004-06-08 05:27:50 UTC
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Post by LineNoise
"Bother!", said Pooh, as he read chainbreaker's latest post to
alt.games.diablo.
Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
This feels like a 1.09 list to me, as of playing 1.10 ladder i have
found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow (tonnes)
ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light plate, 2
cryptic swords and 2 of the entire tal's set. See my direct reply to
the original post for what i believe is the most rare set item.
They're all a lot easier to find than they were in 1.09.
And he didn't ask for the hardest to find set *item*.
Anyway, what you find yourself doesn't mean jack squat as to it's relative
rarity. If you want to go that route, then based on my findings 1.09
Grandfathers were common as dirt.
Anyway, Ondal's Almighty was statistically supposed to be the most rare 1.09
set item, if I remember correctly, and most likely still is, although I'm
not up on the revised stats, and I've found 3 of those, 2 in .09. I've also
found 3 M'avina hats and at least 4 Tal's ammys.
What does that prove? Not a damn thing.
Statistically, I would think that either Griswold's shield or Natalya's
claw would be the most rare. Highest treasure class, plus the additional
1/3rd penalty for being class-specific base items. Either that or Telling
of Beads from Disciple. Highest qlvl on a set amulet, and only 1/45th
chance even after you have a green amulet high enough.
there's only one which I have never found (counting pre & post 1.10), and
I'm pretty certain I've found multiples of all others - the bul kathos
mythical sword, having said that Mickey always seems to be finding them
derek foster
2004-06-04 23:52:46 UTC
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Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make another
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an inexplicable
need to collect set items, I thought it would be helpful to know which are
the most difficult set items to find. Preferably, a list of which item in
each set is the most difficult (for some reason I keep thinking it's like
that McDonald's Monopoly game...they make tons of Boardwalks, but only a
few Park Places, so if you find a Park Place you're all set 'cause sooner
or
later you'll get a Boardwalk). If that made sense, thanks for hanging in
there! For example, I have no problem selling all Cathan's Seal Rings,
'cause I know if I ever need one, it'll take very little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Thanks,
Amy
i guess immortal kings armor is the hardest one to find. at least it was
back in the old patch

cheers.
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Alucard
2004-06-05 04:57:07 UTC
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Post by V.
I am gathering too much stuff and don't want to have to make another
account, so I wanted to start paring down. Since I have an inexplicable
need to collect set items, I thought it would be helpful to know which
are the most difficult set items to find. Preferably, a list of which
item in each set is the most difficult (for some reason I keep thinking
it's like that McDonald's Monopoly game...they make tons of Boardwalks,
but only a few Park Places, so if you find a Park Place you're all set
'cause sooner or later you'll get a Boardwalk). If that made sense,
thanks for hanging in there! For example, I have no problem selling all
Cathan's Seal Rings, 'cause I know if I ever need one, it'll take very
little time to find one.
Anyone know where I can find a list of the most difficult to find set items?
Thanks,
Amy
The most difficult to find set item on 1.10 is sanders cap without a doubt.

I have found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow (tonnes)
ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light plate, 2 cryptic swords
, 2 of the entire tal's set and the entire ik set. For the sake of expressing
how well i've searched i also have found a windforce and about 100 arcanna's
hats.
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we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to
repetitive music."
Shiflet
2004-06-05 05:37:05 UTC
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Post by Alucard
I have found the entire heavens set, aldurs plate, natalyas shadow (tonnes)
ma'avinas diadem and bow (but not armour) naj's light plate, 2 cryptic swords
, 2 of the entire tal's set and the entire ik set. For the sake of expressing
how well i've searched i also have found a windforce and about 100 arcanna's
hats.
I've found Sander's cap but not a single one of the items you list there
except Nat's Shadow(which isn't the rare piece, the Mark, aka the claw is)
and parts of Tals and IK sets.
Post by Alucard
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we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to
repetitive music."
chainbreaker
2004-06-05 11:18:27 UTC
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Post by Alucard
The most difficult to find set item on 1.10 is sanders cap without a doubt.
And that's most likely because you don't do much normal mf'ing?
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Alucard
2004-06-05 17:53:10 UTC
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Post by Alucard
The most difficult to find set item on 1.10 is sanders cap without a doubt.
And that's most likely because you don't do much normal mf'ing?
A fair bit but not relatively any where near as much as hell. But still who
does.
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john graesser
2004-06-06 00:43:51 UTC
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Post by Alucard
Post by chainbreaker
And that's most likely because you don't do much normal mf'ing?
A fair bit but not relatively any where near as much as hell. But still who
does.
I do, just becuase I can trade all those angelic ammy/ring combos for decent
gear. I found my second sanders hat 8 months after I traded the first one
away by mistake. Even a milabrega set bought me a tal ammy. If I can trade
full low sets for individual elite items then I am glad to do it.
chainbreaker
2004-06-06 01:32:56 UTC
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Post by Alucard
Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
The most difficult to find set item on 1.10 is sanders cap without a doubt.
And that's most likely because you don't do much normal mf'ing?
A fair bit but not relatively any where near as much as hell. But
still who does.
I figured that was so obvious it didn't need saying. :-)
--
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~misfit~
2004-06-05 23:47:27 UTC
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Post by Alucard
The most difficult to find set item on 1.10 is sanders cap without a doubt.
And that's most likely because you don't do much normal mf'ing?
I've been wondering about that chainbreaker. I do most of my MF in
nightmare, some in hell, but hardly any in normal. I take it that's not a
good thing then?

Cheers,
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chainbreaker
2004-06-06 01:37:33 UTC
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Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
The most difficult to find set item on 1.10 is sanders cap without a doubt.
And that's most likely because you don't do much normal mf'ing?
I've been wondering about that chainbreaker. I do most of my MF in
nightmare, some in hell, but hardly any in normal. I take it that's
not a good thing then?
Cheers,
Well, if you want normal uniques and low level set items you're better of
mfing normal for them--lots of Meph and council runs is probably as good a
way to collect them as any. Maybe Andy, too.

Otherwise, you're better off just doing what you're doing--and when you get
a character who can stand it, start running the 85 areas in Hell like the
Pit and the Keep.
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~misfit~
2004-06-06 14:22:51 UTC
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Post by ~misfit~
Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
The most difficult to find set item on 1.10 is sanders cap without a doubt.
And that's most likely because you don't do much normal mf'ing?
I've been wondering about that chainbreaker. I do most of my MF in
nightmare, some in hell, but hardly any in normal. I take it that's
not a good thing then?
Cheers,
Well, if you want normal uniques and low level set items you're
better of mfing normal for them--lots of Meph and council runs is
probably as good a way to collect them as any. Maybe Andy, too.
Otherwise, you're better off just doing what you're doing--and when
you get a character who can stand it, start running the 85 areas in
Hell like the Pit and the Keep.
I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to slang for areas. 'Pit' is Pit of
Acheron (sp?) huh? The Keep? Is that on the way down to Baal? *penny drops*,
yeah, the worldstone keep, that's it huh?

Thanks,
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EvilBill
2004-06-06 15:50:41 UTC
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Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
Post by chainbreaker
Post by ~misfit~
Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
The most difficult to find set item on 1.10 is sanders cap without a doubt.
And that's most likely because you don't do much normal mf'ing?
I've been wondering about that chainbreaker. I do most of my MF in
nightmare, some in hell, but hardly any in normal. I take it that's
not a good thing then?
Cheers,
Well, if you want normal uniques and low level set items you're
better of mfing normal for them--lots of Meph and council runs is
probably as good a way to collect them as any. Maybe Andy, too.
Otherwise, you're better off just doing what you're doing--and when
you get a character who can stand it, start running the 85 areas in
Hell like the Pit and the Keep.
I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to slang for areas. 'Pit' is Pit of
Acheron (sp?) huh?
Nope. 'The Pit', in Tamoe Highland.
Post by ~misfit~
The Keep? Is that on the way down to Baal? *penny
drops*, yeah, the worldstone keep, that's it huh?
Yep. :)
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well for me with them and it is well for them. I am a nhh-star, the
companion of a nhh-star, I become a nhh-star, and I will not suffer for
ever."
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2004-06-07 00:53:04 UTC
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Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
Post by chainbreaker
Post by ~misfit~
Post by chainbreaker
Post by Alucard
The most difficult to find set item on 1.10 is sanders cap without a doubt.
And that's most likely because you don't do much normal mf'ing?
I've been wondering about that chainbreaker. I do most of my MF in
nightmare, some in hell, but hardly any in normal. I take it that's
not a good thing then?
Cheers,
Well, if you want normal uniques and low level set items you're
better of mfing normal for them--lots of Meph and council runs is
probably as good a way to collect them as any. Maybe Andy, too.
Otherwise, you're better off just doing what you're doing--and when
you get a character who can stand it, start running the 85 areas in
Hell like the Pit and the Keep.
I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to slang for areas. 'Pit' is Pit of
Acheron (sp?) huh?
Nope. 'The Pit', in Tamoe Highland.
True? That's an 85 area? In act one? No wonder it can be difficult. Thanks.
I'll take my MF 'zon for a run there when I've finished reading this group.
Post by EvilBill
Post by ~misfit~
The Keep? Is that on the way down to Baal? *penny
drops*, yeah, the worldstone keep, that's it huh?
Yep. :)
Cheers,
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LineNoise
2004-06-07 01:36:54 UTC
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alt.games.diablo.
Post by ~misfit~
Post by EvilBill
Nope. 'The Pit', in Tamoe Highland.
True? That's an 85 area? In act one? No wonder it can be difficult. Thanks.
I'll take my MF 'zon for a run there when I've finished reading this group.
Won't help you at all in 1.09 to run Pit. That's one of the big changes
for 1.10.

LineNoise
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EvilBill
2004-06-07 02:23:22 UTC
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Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to slang for areas. 'Pit' is Pit
of Acheron (sp?) huh?
Nope. 'The Pit', in Tamoe Highland.
True? That's an 85 area? In act one? No wonder it can be difficult.
Thanks. I'll take my MF 'zon for a run there when I've finished
reading this group.
It's an 85 area in 1.10; 1.09 is quite different.
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well for me with them and it is well for them. I am a nhh-star, the
companion of a nhh-star, I become a nhh-star, and I will not suffer for
ever."
EvilBill - http://www.evilbill.co.uk
My Quake2 FTP site: ftp://65.30.181.223/quake2/EvilBill/
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2004-06-07 08:35:06 UTC
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Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to slang for areas. 'Pit' is Pit
of Acheron (sp?) huh?
Nope. 'The Pit', in Tamoe Highland.
True? That's an 85 area? In act one? No wonder it can be difficult.
Thanks. I'll take my MF 'zon for a run there when I've finished
reading this group.
It's an 85 area in 1.10; 1.09 is quite different.
Thanks, (And thanks LineNoise). I wondered why I ran it a couple of times
and got squat.
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Paul Brinkley
2004-06-07 12:55:12 UTC
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On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:35:06 +1200, "~misfit~"
Post by ~misfit~
Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
Post by EvilBill
Nope. 'The Pit', in Tamoe Highland.
True? That's an 85 area? In act one? No wonder it can be difficult.
Thanks. I'll take my MF 'zon for a run there when I've finished
reading this group.
It's an 85 area in 1.10; 1.09 is quite different.
Thanks, (And thanks LineNoise). I wondered why I ran it a couple of times
and got squat.
You can run it several times in 1.10 and get squat, too. Don't expect
instant riches.

I've run the 1.10 Pit maybe 50 times, and got absolutely nothing
except sell-bait from the gold chest at the end. (However, I did get
several nice drops from bosses on the way there, arguably the best
reason to do it.)
LineNoise
2004-06-07 17:52:16 UTC
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"Bother!", said Pooh, as he read Paul Brinkley's latest post to
alt.games.diablo.
Post by Paul Brinkley
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:35:06 +1200, "~misfit~"
Post by ~misfit~
Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
Post by EvilBill
Nope. 'The Pit', in Tamoe Highland.
True? That's an 85 area? In act one? No wonder it can be difficult.
Thanks. I'll take my MF 'zon for a run there when I've finished
reading this group.
It's an 85 area in 1.10; 1.09 is quite different.
Thanks, (And thanks LineNoise). I wondered why I ran it a couple of times
and got squat.
You can run it several times in 1.10 and get squat, too. Don't expect
instant riches.
I've run the 1.10 Pit maybe 50 times, and got absolutely nothing
except sell-bait from the gold chest at the end. (However, I did get
several nice drops from bosses on the way there, arguably the best
reason to do it.)
The sparkly chest is fool's gold. Absolutely worthless. The point of Pit
runs is killing all the champs and bosses on the way down.

LineNoise
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are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore
Roosevelt (1918)
Desktop
2004-06-07 20:23:44 UTC
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"Bother!", said Pooh, as he read Paul Brinkley's latest post to
alt.games.diablo.
Post by Paul Brinkley
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:35:06 +1200, "~misfit~"
Post by ~misfit~
Post by EvilBill
Tremble ye! for upon this sandbank of Apophis ~misfit~
Post by ~misfit~
Post by EvilBill
Nope. 'The Pit', in Tamoe Highland.
True? That's an 85 area? In act one? No wonder it can be
difficult. Thanks. I'll take my MF 'zon for a run there when I've
finished reading this group.
It's an 85 area in 1.10; 1.09 is quite different.
Thanks, (And thanks LineNoise). I wondered why I ran it a couple of
times and got squat.
You can run it several times in 1.10 and get squat, too. Don't
expect instant riches.
I've run the 1.10 Pit maybe 50 times, and got absolutely nothing
except sell-bait from the gold chest at the end. (However, I did get
several nice drops from bosses on the way there, arguably the best
reason to do it.)
The sparkly chest is fool's gold. Absolutely worthless. The point
of Pit runs is killing all the champs and bosses on the way down.
LineNoise
If I see a decent chest I just have to get my hands on it!

desktop at home dot se
Stephen van Ham
2004-06-08 02:53:30 UTC
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 08:55:12 -0400, Paul Brinkley
Post by Paul Brinkley
I've run the 1.10 Pit maybe 50 times, and got absolutely nothing
except sell-bait from the gold chest at the end. (However, I did get
several nice drops from bosses on the way there, arguably the best
reason to do it.)
Ah yes, the pit of despair. I went a good stretch without finding
anything down there better than a cathan's seal. It got better after
that though. :-)
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